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Now that's a really worry sign. What we will do then.
But i am sure there will be something for International Card Holders who don't have biometric thing in these cards.
But we have to start preparing before that happen.
We have to establish a community or federation so in any bad case we can able to talk to Govt officials.
How to Use Biometric ATM
Insert your One Card in the Biometric ATM machine
Place your Right/Left thumb impression on the space provided at the right side of the machine.
Select the type of account from which you want to withdraw funds
Select the amount to withdraw
Take your One Card
Take your Cash
Take your Receipt
How to Use Cardless Biometric ATM
Start Cardless Biometric ATM transaction by pressing any button available on both sides of ATM screen
Enter 13 digit CNIC
Place your Right/Left thumb impression on the Bio Matric device placed at the right side of the machine.
Select the type of transaction
For Cash withdrawal, Select the type of account and amount to withdraw
Take your Cash
Take your Receipt
May be these type of ATM machine have some option or way for withdrawing money using any international master or visa card. Payoneer presently working only with 3 banks (Alfalah, SCB, MCB), let see what ATM services they will be provide in case of biometric atm.
so i just reuqest you all to post your comments on my thread which i open for you to show them we must need this service asap thanks.
What will we do if both will also close in some day.
@Nissim Please look on this matter and start Local Bank transfer to Pakistan ASAP.
i think this ATM payoneer method is no more workable in pakistan
but i would like to know what is this local bank transfer?
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> Nissim Please look on this matter and start Local Bank transfer to Pakistan ASAP.
This is just a mis-confusion spread by the author (@Syed Talal) of an article posted on ProPakistani blog:
http://propakistani.pk/2015/08/31/sbp-makes-biometric-verification-mandatory-for-opening-bank-accounts-and-using-atms/
Check this original circular link issued by SBP:
http://www.sbp.org.pk/bprd/2015/CL13.htm
Read it carefully, there is no single word of biometric ATM's used in this circular.
here is the specific point they instruct banks:
"3. Further, banks/DFIs are advised to make use of bio-metric technology at the branch level for verification of particulars of prospective customers. Installation of bio-metric machines at branches should be completed by December 31, 2015."
So basically they instruct to install bio-metric machines at branches to verify the particulars of customers not bio-metric ATM's.
I also talked to one of VP of SBP and he told me that they didn't instruct banks to install bio-metric ATM's by Dec 31, 2015 and if any bank wish to install it by its own they can.
So guys relax International cards are not dying from Jan 1, 2016 and we will continue to use Payoneer cards provided that banks won't stop that by their own.
But we still need Local Bank Transfer facility.
Regards,
Nommi
I guess, Payoneer officials are hibernating. No one is here to reply. While Pakistan is one of the biggest source of funding for Payoneer as there are thousands and thousands of freelancers, bloggers and web developers who are working online and using Payoneer. If they are all gone at once, Payoneer business will suffer badly. So, this company should take us seriously. No kidding.
@Nissim
This whole speculation came after that ProPakitani article in which they told all wrongly that SBP instructed all banks to install bio-metric ATMs by end of this year.
So chill and don't worry but yes we still support to bring back local bank transfer service to Pakistan.
Samba Bank will start accepting International Credit/Debit Master Cards very soon. This has told me by Samba Customer Care. They are in process of certification with MasterCard that's why International cards transaction has stopped for the time being.
This is what they've replied me:
Dear Mr. Khurram,
We acknowledge having received your email and would like to inform you that Samba Bank Limited is currently under the process of certification with MasterCard due to which no international ATM/Debit cards, i.e. Master Card, VISA, Payoneer are accepted on our ATMs. Please note that upon the completion of the above stated process the bank will accept all MasterCard international cards.
We truly regret for the inconvenience caused.
For any further assistance you may contact the undersigned or call our 24/7 Phone Banking Unit at (+9221) 11-11-SAMBA (72622).
Regards,
Customer Care Unit
Samba Bank Limited
Pakistan
Phone : (+9221)35657813
Today I went to UBL ATM only to find out they did have implemented bio-metric verification process at several ATMs. (not to use Payoneer. Payoneer does not work with UBL ATM). But the wise decision they have taken is that they give two options when you insert your card: 1- Biometric Verification 2- PIN Validation. I simply chose PIN Validation, entered PIN and proceeded with transaction. So, your interpretation is wrong. Bio-metric system is actually being implemented.
most of these bankers dont know any thing about new rules and regulation. i remember when IBAN was introduced here i went to my bank and asked for my IBAN and they were like whats that??!!
any how hope for the best and prepare for worst..
@A.Talal when i said that bio-metric ATMs are not in the market.
Read my post again I told that any bank if wish to implement bio-metric ATMs it can by its own but what I clarify was that there were no instructions from SBP to any bank that they have to implement bio-metric ATMs by end of this year.
It's banks own discretion whether they implement bio-metric ATMs or not.
And yes even after all banks implemented bio-metric ATM's they can't ignore international cards and will have some way to use these as you told there were 2 options ATM gave to you to select whether to use bio-metric or pin verification.
These international cards are their heavy source of income as they deduct Rs. 200 - 300 per transaction whereas local cards they get around Rs 17 - 18 per transaction.
So international cards will never die even after implementation of bio-metric ATM's.
Also BankIslami has already implemented card less bio-metric ATMs so no need of card just verify yourself through bio-metric and get cash from your account without the use of card.
Faisal bank is no more woking.
Some SCB atms are working
MCB has limit of Rs. 10,000 per atm during 24 hours with Rs. 300 charges.
2. After typing pincode, select Current or Checking Account
3. After deduction payoneer atm fee $3.15, you can withdraw $101, which equal to Pak. Rupee 10,000
another payoneer avid user here .. being a spot fx trader , i use payoneer mostly for conducting transactions with brokers.., but during the last few months, im having severe problems using the card for atm withdrawals..
please can u give names of some atm's in karachi where these cards are accepted apart from bank alfalah ?
thanks a lot!
MCB branches which I used in the past are north nazimabad, Abdullah Haroon, PIDC.
Use previous year SCB, garden road branch, not know presently working or not.
Samba bank is not accepting payoneer card anymore.
Please note that presently only Bank Al-falah offering best rate, without any extra fee and any session withdrawal limitation.
Yes I endorse all the things which Nasir Khan wrote.
I've tried almost all these branches which Nasir told and found same.
Yes right now only good available option remaining in Pakistan to withdraw from Payoneer card is Bank Alfalah, hopefully Samba Bank re-start it again soon.
anyone tried dib bank and icbc bank for payoneer atm withdrawals ??
thanks a lot!
ICBC : Industrial and Commercial Bank of China Ltd
Never tried these bank. HSBC ATM were accepting master card in past though I never tried it. In Oct 2014 Meezan bank has acquire HSBC branches and as we all know that Meezan Bank Atm does'nt support master card.
yesterday I have face a problem, I made transaction for withdraw $200 from ATM but machine didn't withdraw my money and slip, when I checked my statement balance have deduct from my account $204 and showing in Pending Authorizations . Do you have any Idea should I contact the branch manager from where I withdraw my money or should I just wait for Payoneer to update transaction history???
as for your payment most of the time it reverts back automatically. if it doesnt then contact payoneer. local bank can not help in this situation.
$200.52 For Rs. 20,000
Only best available option in Pakistan right now.
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Wondering why bank-alfalah is working without any hassle and problem. Here is official press release from master card. Nothing mentioned about payoneer.but at least we know that there is some deal between master and bank al-falah
http://newsroom.mastercard.com/mea/press-releases/bank-alfalah-brings-mastercard-internet-gateway-system-to-pakistan/
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5th July 2015 – Bank Alfalah and MasterCard recently signed an agreement to bring MasterCard Internet Gateway System (MIGS) to Pakistan. The system connects online merchants and websites with customers by accepting credit cards on the internet. This partnership is of great significance as it brings together Pakistan’s leading card services provider, Bank Alfalah and MasterCard’s expertise and technology.
Speaking on the occasion, Mr. Atif Bajwa, President & CEO, Bank Alfalah said, “We continue our quest to develop a world class payments eco system in Pakistan that creates value and convenience for customers, merchants, and partners. Bank Alfalah will leverage its flagship merchant acquiring business to develop the e-commerce space through MIGS in the country.”
Mr. Raghu Malhotra, President, Middle East and North Africa, MasterCard comments, “We are delighted to announce this deal with Bank Alfalah as we continue to drive the evolution of payments in Pakistan. Business owners can now easily take their businesses online and offer their customers the convenience and security of electronic payments.”
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This is great deal and we need other banks should also make such deal, which will provide more payment solution to all of us.
I am given same link here. I am in Karachi therefore have no experience.
Sargodha
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Sargodha Branch
91 C/2,University Road, Sargodha
Chak No. 111 SB
Chak No. 111 SB, Pull 111, Main Faisalabad Sargodha Road, district Sargodha
Satellite Town Sargodha Branch
302-A, Main Bazar, Satellite Town. Sargodha.
PDF link of all branches of Bank Al-falah
https://us.v-cdn.net/5021998/uploads/editor/t4/gft4zygn4p9h.pdf
and its only $201.24 deducted so it means $1.24 is the charge of bank alfalah
Bank Al-Falah (Talagang)
9/28/2015
15000 PKR
155.16$
fast and smooth transactions....love you payoneer <3 ...
Hey Nasir, can you tell what 'area' it is where Agha Juice Bank Alfalah Branch is located.
Thanks
> Hi,
> yesterday I have face a problem, I made transaction for withdraw $200 from ATM but machine didn't withdraw my money and slip, when I checked my statement balance have deduct from my account $204 and showing in Pending Authorizations . Do you have any Idea should I contact the branch manager from where I withdraw my money or should I just wait for Payoneer to update transaction history???
Did your problem solved? what you did after that problem?
Hyderi branch is also near to this branch. Previous week, Hyderi branch atm was out of order, I went to near agha juice branch and successfully withdrawn my amount.
update:
, after 28 hours , i got the full amount back in my card
How many transactions (20,000) each time allowed per day /24 hours @ bank alfalah?
Any input is much appreciated
Thanks
Only 10 Transactions allowed per day,
in Pak Rs = 2 Lak, but after 18 hours you can get more transactions.
hope it will help!
Thanks, i thought only 1 transaction @ 20,000 per day allowed @ Bank Alfalah
$199.47 = 20000 PKR
One of my affiliate partner ask me for US Address to transfer my payments in my Payoneer Account. Kindly provide me genuine US Address so I can get my $500.
Waiting for reply.
Best Regards,
Saahil
Anyone else facing same problem?
Local Currency Amount: [Pakistan, Rupee: 20000.0]
Amount to charge: $199.41
Never use Islamic Bank Branch ATM's for Payoneer withdrawals as they won't allow international transactions.
I've tried so many branches before and they only give balance and around $1 deducts from balance.
First one was:
Local Currency Amount: [Pakistan, Rupee: 18000.0]
Amount to charge: $179.87
Second one:
Local Currency Amount: [Pakistan, Rupee: 17000.0]
Amount to charge: $170.04
is there any card activation fee..???? first time i want to use
> hello
> is there any card activation fee..???? first time i want to use
There is no activation fee, its free.
MCB limit is 10,000
BTW standard chartered atm is working well without any problem??
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Which branch? All of the ATMs asked me to choose which kind of an account I have: current, saving, etc? I chose current because I wasn't sure. I don't remember this showing up when I withdrew from Samba Bank last time. I checked the SCB, Samba Bank ATMs they all said they accepted MasterCards. Don't know what's wrong. Anyone knows what I'm missing? I doubt I was using the international ATM :neutral:
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Hope it helps
Here is screenshort of my last transaction
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I used SCB branch of Khalid bin waleed road and last week used there Nazimabad Branch and both were smooth transactions except there exchange rate was quite as compared to bank alfalah which I am seeing here.
Do you know which branches of Bank Alfalah in Karachi are accepting payoneer card?
I use SCB tried Bank Alfalah ATM a couple of months ago for withdrawals it declined, I cann't recall the message, but then I tried SCB and it worked.
Bank Alfalah is offering better conversion rates and deducting lesser as charges than SCB.
Please atm se withdraw k bajaye agar ap direct apne Bank me paise transfer karen to behtar nahi he kia?
Ap log samajh rahe honge k me pagal hon payoneer to aisi koi service ni de rha he. Bilkul aisi service ni de rha but hum Skrill account bana kar osko verify kara kar or os me apni kisi b banki detail dal kar apne payoneer master card se apne Skrill me paise transfer karen or phir Skrill ko use karte howe apne bank me Direct deposite karen total 5 working days me sari film kkhatam hojayegi. na chori ka dar na atm walo ke nakhre bardash karne parenge. Kia bolte ho bhaiyu?
Yes I also used Skrill when it was transferring money in dollars and on that time it was so expensive and now as it uses Euro and our payment will be in Dollars so it will be so much expensive because of Dollar to Euro conversion and other charges.
It might be good for big amounts as it will deduct lum sum around 20 - 25 Euros + charges.
But not good for small amounts.
20000 charges 204$
Today 10 Dec 2015, I made 4 transactions smoothly without any problems at Bank Alfalah Hyderi Branch, Karachi.
Three 20,000 Transactions and One 10,000
So its confirmed that we can cash out less then 20,000 and more than one transactions in a day from Bank Alfalah ATMs.
Here are the best rates I got today:
$ 201.47 for Rs. 20,000
$ 201.47 for Rs. 20,000
$ 201.47 for Rs. 20,000
$ 101.82 for Rs. 10,000
Edit: This could only work with the EUR Payoneer card. :neutral:
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someone facing problem of withdrawing money via the atm's? I was suing SCB without any issues but recently i am facing issue to withdraw my fund. I have used many atm's like SCB, MCB, Faysal bank, Bank al falah. Some says "Invalid Transaction", "Host status unknown", "Transaction done on holidays will be posted on next working day card deactivated". I don't know what's going on with my card.
I have over USD $1100. I have contacted with support teams but they said everything is fine from our end but the issue is still exist. someone of you having same issue? what you have done to resolve this issue?
I will appreciate your help in this regards.
Thank you
> Hello, i have 119 in my account. I went to the Bank of Punjab but there was an error and i could not withdraw my money. Please help i'm a new member in payoneer.
Bank Al-Falah ki Consumer (not Islamic) Branches ki Atms use kro :)
1. Consumer (or Commercial or Normal) Branches
2. Islamic Branches